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momodan
新進會員
新進會員
發表 發表於: 星期三 2009-02-11 20:35
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各位前進先輩們,小弟最近想入手TISSOT的PR50入門機械錶,可是腕巴這邊好像沒有TISSOT的討論區,小弟有看到SEIKO的討論區,印象中瑞士的錶應該不會比日本的差太多,可是為什麼沒TISSOT的討論區呢??
另外想請問,有間錶店告訴小弟PR50的生活30米防水,別戴著洗澡或是浮潛,想請教PR50的防水真的這麼不耐嗎??一般的洗澡、浮潛或是三溫暖可以戴著嗎??
感謝各位前輩們的答覆
jones59
終極會員
終極會員
發表 發表於: 星期三 2009-02-11 20:42
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不建議 一般的洗澡、浮潛或是三溫暖可以戴著...防水墊圈易塑化....尤其是熱水澡與三溫暖.. 微笑
kobeyu
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發表 發表於: 星期三 2009-02-11 20:55
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Water Resistance

The water-resistance is guaranteed by several seals but cannot be considered as permanent protection. They are subject to a natural aging process and need to be replaced after a certain time of use. However, under certain circumstances, the integrity of the moisture resistance may become compromised within a shorter period of time.

Furthermore, impacts to the crown can influence the water-resistance as well.
A perfect long-term protection is given by annual water-resistance tests.


Water Resistance Classification

The "Water Resistant" mark has come to replace the "Water Proof" and is now described by the following ISO-Standard 2281:
Declaration on dial or back


NO DECLARATION
This model is NOT water resistant.
Any water contact should be avoided.

WATER RESIST
This model is resistant to minor and Accidental Splashes.
Greater water contact should be avoided

WATER RESISTANT 30M
(3 ATM / 100 Feet) *
Protected in everyday life, bathing, accidental splashes, short swimming or car washing - it is resistant against perspiration, water vapor, rain drops.
It is tested for water resistance up to 3 ATM, and must be able to survive 30 minutes under water at a depth of 1 m (3 feet) followed by 90 seconds under a pressure corresponding to 30 meters

( 3 ATM / 100 Feet) * ( 3atm/ 100英尺) *
保護在日常生活中,洗澡,意外飛濺,短期游泳或洗車-它是抗汗水,水蒸氣,雨水下降。
這是測試,耐水性達30m,而且必須能夠生存30分鐘的水下深度為1米( 3英尺) ,其次是90秒的壓力下對應的30米


WATER RESISTANT 50M
(5 ATM / 160 Feet) *
Protected in everyday life, bathing, accidental splashes, short swimming, car washing, parachuting, hang gliding and skiing - it is resistant against perspiration, water vapor, rain drops.
It is tested for water resistance up to 5 ATM corresponding to 50 meters

WATER RESISTANT 100M
(10 ATM / 300 Feet) *
Protected in everyday life, swimming, snorkeling, mountain climbing, parachuting, hang gliding, skiing and all kinds of sports challenges
It is tested for water resistance up to 10 ATM corresponding to 100 m

WATER RESISTANT 200M
(20 ATM / 660 Feet) *
Protected in everyday life, free diving without scuba gear, and all kinds of water sports.
It is tested for water resistance up to 20 ATM corresponding to 200 m

WATER RESISTANT 300M
(30 ATM / 1000 Feet) *
Protected for scuba diving to a depth of 30 meters, for 2 hours.
It is tested for water resistance up to 30 ATM corresponding to 300 m

WATER RESISTANT 500M
(50 ATM / 1650 Feet) *
Protected for scuba diving to a depth of 50 meters, for 2 hours.
It is tested for water resistance up to 50 ATM corresponding to 500 m

* The metres value does not relate to a diving depth but to the air pressure
used in the course of the water resistance test. (DIN 8310, ISO 2281, NIHS 91-10)



We recommend to have your watch tested annually by one of our authorized Service Center’s, especially before summer holidays.

- To ensure water-resistance, gaskets must be replaced every 24 months a part of maintenance.
- If moisture has entered the watch, or it the inside to the crystal is fogged up and does not become
clear within a day, or sea water enters the watch, immediately the watch to a Service Center for repair.
- Avoid contact with water and dampness to prevent discoloration and deformation.
- Leaving the watch in such a state will allow corrosion to form inside.
- Accumulated dust and dirt may cause corrosion and soil your clothing.
- When you want bathing in the sea, always rinse your watch with warm water afterwards.

Condensation can appear in any watch and is caused by a sudden change in temperature i.e.
When a watch is removed from a cold room and placed into a warm room, or vice versa. The appearance of condensation does not mean the watch will not operate but it should be checked by us.



Further information see instruction and guarantee card,
you find at the homage of the Federation of the Swiss Watch Industry, or at FAQ

Watch Service Water Resistance Repair Service Moon Phase Service Stations Guarantee


稍微找了一下這是 瑞士聯邦製錶業 對防水的解釋,30m的部分,已翻成中文,請自行斟酌.
yngwiemore
資深會員
資深會員
發表 發表於: 星期三 2009-02-11 22:11
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買旋入式龍頭和旋入式後底蓋
天梭.浪琴.梅花麥.波爾.漢彌頓.精工.......這些等級錶款,都很優
momodan
新進會員
新進會員
發表 發表於: 星期三 2009-02-11 22:25
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感謝上面幾位前輩的解說 非常高興
想請問yngwiemore前輩,您所說的旋入式龍頭和旋入式後底蓋應該如何分辨?天梭有哪些錶款是這類的呢??小弟想了解的是一般游泳池、海上浮潛、三溫暖有蒸氣的地方PR50能否承受?
之前有戴著一隻SEIKO的入門機械錶標示100M的去浮潛過,似乎還OK;也有戴著FOSSIL的石英錶標示100M去游泳,好像也沒事。所以會想說是否由天梭標示的30M等級也能達到上述100M的功能。
抱歉因為對錶實在了解不多,問了這麼多問題。
submariner3135
終極會員
終極會員
發表 發表於: 星期四 2009-02-12 02:38
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旋入式龍頭,
您必需用旋轉的方式才能把龍頭打開,
直接去拉是打不開的.
旋入式底蓋背後一定有洞或凹槽( 一般是4-6個 )
才能讓開錶器有施力點.
旋入式龍頭大多配旋入式後蓋,
以確保防水無虞.
PR 50游泳池, 浮潛運動跟三溫暖都不適宜,
僅能用在日常生活防水.
TISSOT有一款Seastar,
可以深潛到1000m.
買這東西,
您就不用擔心防水的問題了....... 眨眼
cognacseller
資深會員
資深會員
發表 發表於: 星期四 2009-02-12 09:56
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Seastar +1, 曾入手過一支機械的, 不到萬元耐操有擋頭.

也感謝 kobeyu 大的資訊分享.
skwu
進階會員
進階會員
發表 發表於: 星期四 2009-02-12 12:19
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PR50的50是防水50米的,不過跟30米的也沒多大差別。
洗洗手可以,別拿在水龍頭下沖或游泳。
momodan
新進會員
新進會員
發表 發表於: 星期四 2009-02-12 16:31
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submariner3135 寫到:
旋入式龍頭,
TISSOT有一款Seastar,
可以深潛到1000m.
買這東西,
您就不用擔心防水的問題了....... 眨眼

感謝前輩的分享,小弟找了一下網路資料,SEASTAR這款好像滿少店家有在賣的??
georgenee
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資深會員
發表 發表於: 星期四 2009-02-12 22:52
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momodan 寫到:
submariner3135 寫到:
旋入式龍頭,
TISSOT有一款Seastar,
可以深潛到1000m.
買這東西,
您就不用擔心防水的問題了....... 眨眼

感謝前輩的分享,小弟找了一下網路資料,SEASTAR這款好像滿少店家有在賣的??

Seastar 1000(300M)後來就不再出了,感覺很怪,照理說應該很有市場競爭力才對,國外還在賣。
台灣還有代理嗎?
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